In our article last week, we aimed to dive deeper into the topic of abuse and explore its prevalence within Golden Dawn Taberncle's culture. However, this has been challenging due to many situations having a mix of elements like spiritual, physical, and mental abuse. But due to recent tragic events, we're compelled to discuss a specific issue today: the abuse of the elderly and sick. Though we intend to delve deeper into various forms of elder abuse in future articles, today's piece will specifically address its connection to the church services. A recent incident highlights just how alarming this form of abuse can be.
Church Service Expectations
To grasp the dynamics of these situations, it's crucial to first understand the stringent rules associated with church services. As highlighted in our rules page article, missing church services is strictly prohibited. The only apparent exceptions are if you're in the hospital giving birth or if hospitalized and not yet discharged — even then, you're expected to dial in to hear service over a phone line. Whether recovering from an illness, surgery, or childbirth, attendance at the three weekly services is mandatory. These services occur on Wednesday evenings, Sunday mornings, and Sunday evenings, with each session lasting over three hours. Taking vacations or breaks away from church, or leaving early is strictly forbidden.
When services take place, they are notably prolonged and demand formal attire: suits and ties for men, and ankle-length dresses/skirts for women. Pastor Isaac Noriega asserts that his sermons are direct revelations from God. He believes he becomes an instrument of divine speech, losing control over the content and duration of his discourses. Coupled with this belief is a doctrine he introduced: any sound or movement not in alignment with the service's "order" could interrupt his divine connection, potentially causing God to withdraw from the session. Consequently, there's a stringent policy against noise and movement. Something as mundane as a bathroom visit or a cough from any one of the congregation can prompt Isaac to pause his sermon and focus intently on the source of interruption. This strict approach extends even to infants; Isaac has suggested that disruptive noises from babies might be instigated by demonic forces aiming to hinder his preaching.
Elderly And Sick Congregants In Service
Elderly individuals, given potential health and cognitive challenges, are undeniably more susceptible to the adverse effects of these stringent church rules. It's distressing enough to require someone to sit for prolonged periods without movement or regular bathroom breaks, but the situation is amplified as one becomes frailer with age. Many elderly members, even those gravely ill, feel compelled to attend church irrespective of their condition. It's widely known that some terminally ill members, even those in hospice care, were dressed formally and brought to church, seemingly more for optics than any spiritual benefit.
A case in point is the late Oscar Jacques Sr., who, despite battling terminal cancer and medicated with morphine, was obligated to attend church services and remain alert throughout. Reports suggest his oldest son and now head deacon, Isaac Jacques, prioritized church attendance over his father's evident discomfort. Isaac Jacques appeared more preoccupied with maintaining appearances and seeking approval from the congregation than ensuring his father's well-being and comfort.
Unfortunately, this isn't an isolated case. Many other examples underscore this concerning trend. Names like Martha Espitia, Jennie Miramontez, Audelia Alvarado and Carmen Lopez Samorano come to mind. Despite their critical health conditions and being comatuse, they were brought to services. Instead of resting comfortably at home, they were made to sit through long sermons getting nothing out of it, adding to their discomfort and placing undue burden on their caregivers and family members.
Helpless And Disruptive Elders Forced Into Custodial Closet
Unfortunately, some elderly individuals develop conditions like dementia or Alzheimer's, which can lead to symptoms like unexpected outbursts or raised voices. Despite these challenges, the rigid rule of mandatory attendance remains enforced, even for those with such conditions.
As mentioned above, Pastor Isaac Noriega has a reputation for reacting adversely if he perceives interruptions or disturbances during his sermons, suggesting that such disruptions affect the "anointing" of the Holy Spirit he believes speaks through him. This has instilled a fear among congregants, leading them to extreme lengths to prevent any unintentional disturbances. A recent measure taken to manage these situations involves placing individuals, particularly those prone to outbursts, in janitorial closets. Several late congregants who were subjected to this abuse were Pedro Silva Sr., and Angel Gonzalez.
This is done either by their families or by a deacon to muffle any disruptions. Ironically, these interruptions could be prevented by allowing the frail and elderly to remain at home instead of subjecting them to the confines of a closet during services. Yet, the perceived criticality on church attendance as an indicator of one's spiritual commitment is so ingrained that members feel compelled to attend. The church's emphasis on salvation through visible actions (works-based salvation) has led to a culture where one's standing within the community hinges significantly on consistent attendance.
Death of Sister Margaret (Margie) Telles
Many of our readers are already aware of the unfortunate passing of Sister Margaret (Margie) Telles on August 20, 2023, during a church service. In October 2022, she was diagnosed with brain cancer and underwent emergency surgery in an effort to address it. We recently acquired the church's obituary for Sister Margie and noted several concerning details.
On a Wednesday, as she was preparing for a church service, Sister Margie seemingly experienced stroke-like symptoms or a seizure. While most would rush someone displaying such symptoms to an emergency room, she was instead taken to the church service. There, her health further deteriorated. Instead of immediately seeking medical assistance and dialing 911, the church elders chose to pray over her. It was only two days later, after her condition worsened and she had another seizure, that she was finally taken to a hospital.
This reluctance to seek prompt medical intervention is a disturbing trend within Golden Dawn Tabernacle. It appears that seeking help from healthcare professionals is viewed as a sign of diminished faith or a lack of spirituality. Tragically, this mindset often leads to avoidable suffering and, in severe cases, even death. Elderly members, being more prone to health complications, are especially at risk. This is a blatant form of elder abuse, fostered by the GDT's harmful culture that discourages turning to medical experts when necessary.
Below is the entire obituary the church published:
Below is the obituary South Lawn Cemetery posted online. Notably, it was taken down just a few days after its appearance. It's speculated that once the church leadership became aware of its publication, they requested its removal from the funeral home's site. This move seems designed to limit the dissemination of funeral specifics and dissuade non-church family members from participating. A similar approach was taken for the funeral of Martha Espitia Noriega, who was Isaac Noriega's sister.
For many years now, Pastor Isaac Noriega has been increasingly restrictive about allowing non-church members, even if they are immediate family, to attend funerals. This seemingly spiteful action underscores the oppressive environment within the church. It's distressing to think that congregants are prevented from mourning and processing their grief alongside their families, all due to Isaac Noriega's asserted spiritual dominance.
The circumstances surrounding Sister Margie's death have been the subject of much speculation. It's confirmed by the church that she passed away during the Sunday morning service on August 20, 2023. Some sources suggest she was in the custodial closet at the time of her demise. Given the church's past actions of placing elderly members in such locations, this seems plausible. On the other hand, there's also speculation that she was moved there posthumously, while arrangements were made for her transportation. Reports indicate that Isaac Noriega commented that Sister Margie had expressed a wish to pass away within the church, suggesting her wishes were fulfilled. This perspective, which is also hinted at in the previously mentioned church obituary, seems more like an attempt to cast her passing in a favorable light rather than address the real concerns of possible abuse.
We urge our readers: if anyone has definitive information or evidence about the events of that fateful day, please share your insights in the comments or reach out to us privately.
Conclusion
This article only scratches the surface of the abuses faced by elderly members of the church. We will delve deeper into these concerns in upcoming articles. From the documentation and reports we've gathered, it's clear that there are grave issues related to the treatment of elderly congregants at Golden Dawn Tabernacle. The hesitancy and oversight in seeking crucial medical care for those in need is evident. The distress caused by confining senior members in a custodial closet for extended periods cannot be overlooked. We must ask ourselves: would we accept this treatment for our grandparents or parents?
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Nueva generacion — September 9, 2023#
Quiero verlo a el cuando se este muriendo en su sillita de ruedas, sentado alli bajó ese aire helado por 4hrs, sin decir una Palabra calladito, que pruebe lo que le hizo pasar a tanta Gente
Elderly closet — September 9, 2023#
I’m sure everyone remembers brother Angel (Barbara’s husband) in that closet for years 😭
TGBTG — September 9, 2023#
Let’s not forget brother Pedro Silva sr. How his sons would put him facing a wall in the bathroom. I remember when I was super young sister Sara Noriega in a horrible state and her husband Danny noriega would take her like that to show face. Are whole lives we thought this was normal, another name to remember was sister Alvarado she would cry out of pain during the service. I remember little micheal Josiah poor baby suffering with cancer and when he was not in the hospital he was at church. Brother angel gonzales with dementia and they would put him in a closet I hope this ministry pays for what they have done and our doing to these people
Saved By Grace — September 9, 2023#
It’s normalized when you’re inside GD. Because we’re the elite little Bride…we’re all in step and in line with “the word as it comes forth” …. It’s not till you step away you finally realize you were in a cult controlled by narcissistic old man and a small group of his elites.. May God deliver open the eyes of parents and I pray that this next generation of kids that are going to serve the hungry Prince see that Jesus is in our hearts not in an empire built around worship of a man
Saved By Grace — September 9, 2023#
Could you imagine if this was all happening at another message church? We would all be pointing fingers at that church and saying to ourselves we are the elite little bride however, when it happens in GD it’s the squeeze and the Covid deaths are because of hidden sins. Then we are also told that all the parents separated from their children is because of love. We are told we can’t have relationships with family outside of GD because they can influence us in the wrong ways however, when you realize we are all being manipulated by Isaac to stay under his control and we do not even know who we truly are until we leave GD. Hopefully you can leave before the story of your life ends with you dying in the GD pews or muzzled in a janitor closet.
Valor — September 9, 2023#
Porque esperar a que te lastimen a tus hijos, sal de alli y encuentra Otra Iglesia de tu agrado y dale a tus hijos una sociedad sana.
Anonymous — September 10, 2023#
In the many years I was there I used to sit right at the front (assigned seats) and because we were expected to not move and just look at him the angle was to where my neck had to be completely sideways. I started having neck pain. And do until this day. I started seeing a chiropractor he then proceeded to tell me that my jaw was tense and that the pain was also caused by grinding my teeth. He asked me if I had had a traumatic experience, was being abused, or what was the cause of so much pain, and stress. Back then I really didn’t know what was happening. But my body was trying to tell me something was off. Now that I’m out. I came to realize why all this was happening in my body. I’ve met so many people that have left GD and one of the most surprising things I come to find out is that 98% of them had the same exact problems. I know of young and old people That currently attend this cult that are constantly having panic attacks. Before going in to church, and during church they tell themselves that it’s a demon in them. Or that they need to surrender more and that will just stop their panic attacks, to the point of not being able to breath. And I feel For them because it’s just their bodies telling them that something is terribly wrong. They need to know that God is not the God of confusion. He comes to give you LIFE. Abundant life. And that these signs in your body are just alarms going off. I pray that God gives these poor people courage and bravery to leave. And leave this toxic man and ministry of puppets.
Rules for thee but not for me — September 10, 2023#
Anyone else caught when he shamed that young brother for not worshiping because he saw him through the monitor? 🤨 I always thought he was in the back praying and getting ready to preach but apparently not. Then why do we have to go pray and read and maintain reverence if he’s not? Isn’t that a deacon job to watch the people? Hmm 🤔
Oculto — September 10, 2023#
Clemente Noriega, hno de Issac, se molestó muchisimo porque cuando su mama Esther noriega estaba en sus ultimos dias, Issac dio la orden de no darle mas agua de beber, y ninguno hizo nada por enfrentar a ese moustruo, y hacer la cosa correcta, y asi murio mas pronto su madre. eso lo cuenta la familia misma.
anon — September 10, 2023#
so what happened at tonight’s dinner??
Richard — September 10, 2023#
I’m so sorry to read all of this. I can imagine all the traumas that come with being under such a cult regime, worshiping the leader and his whims, the cult leader and his words. I think of all the traumas and it gives me a stomach ache. At home, we firsthand experienced all the issues associated with an elderly person being addicted to the worship of the cult leader and his words. A true addiction, with all the traumas that addiction brings. Today, I can bear witness and tell friends and acquaintances that my mother was addicted, enslaved in her mind, to a cult and its leader, to that leader’s words, for 40 years. I was in that sect, under that leader’s words for 10 years, and it was enough to see how harmful and sick it becomes. It makes you a slave in your mind to that person’s words. And that affects and disrupts all areas of your life. Your self-esteem, your dependence, (they force and make you dependent on a person and his cult) your whole life is affected and conditioned by the words and “scriptural” whims of that person. And when you leave that harmful and sick habit, your brain is used to the fear, threats, and anxiety you experienced in that place under that cult leader. You were formatted for years to be functional to the needs and demands of that cult leader. Identifying, deprogramming, and detoxifying from all of that is not an easy task; it requires a lot of willpower. It’s like quitting an addiction or a vice; there’s a phase that we all have to go through, and that’s the withdrawal (abstinence syndrome) from the cult and its leader. You have to learn to live without the cult and its leader and his words. You literally have to reshape your life, detoxify, and learn to live freely, free from all dependence on that leader and his cult. It’s a titanic, Herculean task; new friends, a new life, new challenges. And carrying all the beliefs, fears, and prejudices they put in your head for years. I know many don’t make it; they return to the cult, go back to what they were used to, and the older you are, the harder it gets, the longer you are in the cult under that regime, the crazier it seems to leave that dependency. I saw my mother go through all the stages or phases of dependence on the cult and its leader. I saw how she came “changed” after attending cult meeting, even I could tell how the leader was in his insecurities due to my mother’s post-meeting behavior and the fears that were unfounded in her. Seeing your own mother have her mind dominated by a cult leader for 40 years is not pleasant; it’s traumatic. I saw how my mother’s mind deteriorated over the years, her cognitive abilities, her ability to reason and learn new things decreased. Her entire life revolved around the cult and the words of its leader; when she spoke of her leader, her hands trembled with emotion as if she was speaking of God himself. For me it was really worrying how these cult leaders manage to enslave people’s minds and lives. My mother suffered from high blood pressure, and in her lapses, her pressure would rise, further degrading her brain and cognitive abilities. She was taking psychiatric medication because she suffered from generalized anxiety disorder, and yes, the cult and its leader’s words caused her significant anxiety because she believed that when the leader preached, it was God himself speaking. Yes, they taught and conveyed that to her for 40 years, submission, to blindly believe the leader’s words (when the cult leader preaches from the pulpit, it’s the word of God), and she believed that innocently with all her heart, with all her strength, with all her mind, for 40 years. She was faithful to him for 40 years, thinking about him, about how to please him, because by pleasing him, she thought she was pleasing God. In the cult, the leader used my mother as an example of attendance. Even in her late 70s, she would take a 2-hour bus ride to attend the worship sessions. If she missed one service she would feel guilty, as if she had done something wrong, consumed by guilt and anxiety. The last year she attended the cult meetings was traumatic for us. She had significantly advanced cognitive decline, thinking that every day was a worship service day. She would get ready, waiting for the time when the cult members would pick her up. But no, there were still 3 days, or 2 days left, and yet, she was prepared, ready to “comply” with the demands of the leader speaking in God’s name. Eventually, I grew tired of the stupidity and cognitive blindness of everyone, the blindness of those members, the blindness of my mother. All of it caused disruption and discomfort in the family, all to please that selfish, stupid psychopath leader. I told them not to come and pick up my mother anymore, that she wasn’t in a state to continue catering to their leader’s whims, that all of this wasn’t healthy, and that this wasn’t what religion was meant for. This isn’t salvation, this is disturbance. My mother’s condition kept deteriorating, her mind wandering, her anxiety increasing, getting lost, panicking when left alone. We didn’t recognize her. Her psychiatric medication wasn’t having the same effect as before. No one noticed, no one imagined. We didn’t realize she was going through a withdrawal, abstinence (abstinence syndrome) from the cult, abstinence from the words of her cult leader. Soon after, she fell and broke her hip (after which she never walked again), and her mental state deteriorated even more. We had to admit her into a nursing home because we didn’t know how to take care of her. Month by month, she began to normalize, accepting that she wasn’t any chosen or privileged one of God. Her beloved cult leader never called home asking about her (one of his most faithful followers). He’s a coward, knowing he would have to face my words. He knows he’s a son of a bitch, only caring about his ego and whatever feeds his fantasy of believing he’s the center of God’s plan. It seems many have told him, in one way or another, because communicating with him is almost impossible. He doesn’t have social media, no email, barely answers the phone, does not accept criticism or questioning. And like every cowardly, psychopathic cult leader, he hides behind the image of God and biblical verses, filling the heads of his believers, his loyal and fanatic worshipers dominated and addicted to fear. When the pandemic began, we brought my mother home, already stable but with very advanced cognitive deterioration. In her mind, she was like a 3-year-old. We took care of her for 3 years until she passed. During those 3 years I took care of my mother, I felt that I had gotten her back. Months before she passed, I called that cult leader. When he answered the phone, I said: “Am I speaking with the best pastor in the world? Do you know that one of your most loyal sheep is still alive?” And he justified himself by saying that he knows she’s not well in her mind but that her soul is saved. When I wanted to tell him what I thought about it, he hung up the call. I called back, but he didn’t answer. He’s a coward. He can’t handle one round of someone telling him what they think of him. His demons are surely disturbed. I called him to gauge the level of humanity he had. It seems the character of being chosen by God consumed all his humanity, or perhaps he never had any to begin with. Anyway, that’s the story of an elderly woman who was loyal to her beloved cult leader for 40 years. He wasn’t loyal to her; he used her, like any narcissistic psychopath uses people. When she was no longer of use to him, he forgot about her, discarded her from his mind. He’s busy with other victims of his fantasies. And the abstinence (abstinence syndrome) from the cult and its leader is real. It’s a period or stage that we all have to go through. The fear of leaving the cult is real. For many, it’s an unthinkable idea. They prefer to die in the cult, die with what they’re used to, rather than face the withdrawal from the cult and its leader. And no, I’m not talking about Isaac. I’m talking about another cult leader similar to Isaac. He seems to be a disciple of Isaac. But this one is from Argentina.
Saved By Grace — September 11, 2023#
Richard you’re correct that Isaac has trained the people that he speaks for God. I very recently spoke with family member still in GD. (who had not talked to me in over 3 yrs) He went on to tell me had just recently met in private with Isaac about an issue with one of his children who is constantly being harassed by Rey Aguirre. Also to get permission to buy his son a car. I asked this person “why do you need to meet with Isaac about your own child?”. He replied “if I don’t meet with bro isaac he’ll make life hell for all my other kids.” I asked “why do you stay?” He replied “because I won’t be able to see my mom and sister ever again if we leave”. I asked what Isaac said about his children. To sum it up Isaac was going to talk to Rey about harassment and that his son was not ready for a car.. But would be able to get a drivers license soon. So disturbing that this man can control everything you people can or can not do!
TGBTG — September 11, 2023#
The sad thing so many articles so many comments and were barely touching the surface there so much more doing on
Widows — September 11, 2023#
Let’s take a moment of silence for all the widows that not only after losing a loved one also lost their freedom. They can’t go anywhere and can’t visit anyone. How depressing is that?!
Testimonio — September 11, 2023#
Richard: Exactamente lo mismo que s hace aca!! Lo siento por tu Madre, duele el corazon… Issac lo unico que le interesa de los ancianos son sus propiedades , dinero, pencion. Una vez que los saquea, los olvida y los encierra Que ahunk su propios hijos y nietos se esconden para ver a los ancianos o ancianos, Yo siempre Tengo la imprecion que le estorban los ancianos y para el Seria mejor desacerse de ellos, como si El estubiera tan Nuevo… 80años!!! Lo deveria de ver como maneja!!! Parece murcielago salido del infierno, lo mejor de Todo que lo va a pagar el y sus hombres y mujeres que lo apoyan.
C. C. — September 11, 2023#
Conosco a algunas viudas y solteronas que tienen la esperanza de casarse con issac.
Richard — September 11, 2023#
respondo a testimonio: murciélago salido del infierno? jajajajajaja. Creo que a esta altura de mi vida, ya no le tengo paciencia a todos estos sectarios dominados por el miedo y las amenazas de un psicópata que se cree ser la voz de Dios. Si mi madre estaría viva hoy día y ella estaría mejor en su mente, creo que yo hablaría con su medico y le contaría la adicción y trastornos que le trae a mi madre esa secta de mierda, haríamos un plan para sacarla y tratar su adicción, como para que pueda pasar la etapa del síndrome de abstinencia de la secta y recuperarla a ella del dominio mental de la secta y su líder.
Richard — September 11, 2023#
I respond to Saved by Grace: Yes, the dominance and control that these cult leaders acquire is very disturbing. Do you think that all this about the GDT website and exposing the reality of what is happening is helping to become more aware of reality?
Mason hands — September 11, 2023#
Bro Isaac is a heck of a catch and all the widows would be be lucky to be with a servant God. However I believe that no matter what Bro Isaac decides to do you guys would find fault in him because your hearts are hardened to Gods mighty gentile warrior of the end time!
Anonymous — September 12, 2023#
Señor Richard: Le informo que grasias a este Web, personas de diferentes paises, relativos y amistades mios, estan instruyendo a sus hijos y familiares sobre esta condicion en la que GD y muchas otras iglesias han caido, es, a sido extremadamente util!!! Ya que por algun Medio u otros esta Iglesia de GD es conocida.. y eso a ayudado a confirmar lo que en esta web se expone ya que concuerda con sus malas experiencia con esta Iglesia, asi que hoy es un ejemplo a no seguir y de Punto de escandalo por lejanas y cercanas Tierras. Quiza los propios miembros de GD son los ultimos que van a reflexionar pues sus mentes terminan como Este individuo llamado Mason hands. Mas aun asi, lento pero te digo que esta dando su fruto.
20 years out — September 12, 2023#
I’m pretty sure you would never be able to understand it.. but that statement is terribly disturbing. If you can’t see the problem, you are too far gone to be able to comprehend common decency. There is nothing gentle about that man and certainly nothing warrior-like about his manipulating cult brainwashing garbage.
EX-CON — September 13, 2023#
My hypocritical brother aka “pornstar”. Is on his honeymoon in the Middle East and Europe…(supposedly) Yeah he’s currently been removed. But he told my mom he’ll return to GD. Because he lives by mommy’s house and can’t afford to not see his mommy. I feel bad for his new wife. The cult will love bomb her in the beginning. She’ll think GD is a big family..eventually she’ll realize it’s a factory at best … after she has kids she will not be allowed to see her family etc etc.. I’m not against my pornstar brother. I’m against his hypocrisy and double life. and his lifestyle proves Isaac only cares about tithes and kisseing his @$$.
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
But will he be allowed back there. He can make his little plan like he always does but will it work this time? Maybe some people don’t want him back. As for the wife nothing to feel bad about she been playing the game with him for years. She knows what it is all about if she didn’t she would not have covered for him all these years. Church will go on without him “riches”.
Haters are the biggest fans — September 13, 2023#
Great job Sherlock! Thanks for the information no one asked for. No one cares besides 2 people probably. Where did F******* go for his honeymoon? Since y’all talking about subjects no one cares about
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Agree! I’m against his hipocrisy and double life. He will be allowed to go back to GD only cause his $$. As for the new wife she also only cares of his money, she has been covering him for years all his lies and past criminal ties. His parents are the only people affected by all his stupid decisions.
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
The new wife doesn’t care joining his cult hahahahaha. This is her 2nd marriage and has 2 kids lol
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Sounds like he prefers drama and lots of baggage. Alway beens self centered.
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
La mama controla a toda su familia, y a ella la controla Rey aguirre…
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Pues al pareser no controla a su hijito 😂😂😂 se casó con una mujer que ella nunca aceptó
Nunca contenta — September 13, 2023#
Ni tanto sus hijos terminaron con mujeres que eya no queria para eyos 😂
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Como siempre, pide perdon y asi ella esta contenta…. ese es el juego.
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Exacto! Y el ultimo asta con una fuera de su religión con dos hijos no de el 🤣
Liar — September 13, 2023#
She is the main reason of all his stupid decisions. Let’s dig a lil on her family specially her father
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Le podra pedir perdón pero no creo que la nueva esposita quiere ir a esa iglesia y dejar a su familia y llevar a su hijos a la escuelita. Tu crees que ella va dejar su ropa entallada, maquillaje, fiestas?
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Hmmm to EX-CON. I know who you are
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
An EX-CON?
Danny Torrez — September 13, 2023#
This is ridiculous. I try to stay away from this website as much as I can but then yeah I get notified that someone’s writing messages. That might be portrayed me. If you have something to say about me and my family or me being an ex-con, you know exactly where I stay. You got my phone number reach out to me and tell me directly. If you are so envious about my brother’s life. I guess your life is boring. Yes, I am an ex convict, but I bet I have a happier life than the person that’s writing all this smack. So keep my brother and my family off this page. And to tell you the truth, I know who’s writing all this stuff on here. I was told if there was gonna be retaliation if they spoke against my brother and my family. But all of you hooligans that are writing comments stop being hiding behind a fake name. STOP!!!!! I know who you are and I’ll call you out. Yes this is Danny writing this.
Bro Berean — September 13, 2023#
Danny my friend. Is any of this a lie? No! You and I both know it’s 100%.. Part of healing, growing and breaking the cycle sometimes ripping off band aids and opening closets that we’ve tucked away. You can call it gossip or trash talk. But put yourself on the shoes of these kids who did get to experience nothing. You didn’t have to go to GD school. You’re lucky you’re not a GD female because you would have a van full of kids and no escape! Stop trying to be all about your family. You blood brothers you wouldn’t even pee on if they were on fire. So you can’t have it both ways. You at least left .. Your own mom and love you conditionally. So things only get better when exposed. We were raised to hide our feelings and everything we do. Would you let Isaac or your uncle Rey tell you that you must shun your daughter? Of course not. So let’s all come together and get this place shut down! Are you so blinded that the way your parents have turned their backs on you is ok! Love you bro!
Brother Berean — September 13, 2023#
DT…What I’m trying to say is parents don’t love their children conditionally..it’s based on us following rules.. Especially the rules made by a senile mad man ISAAC! True Love is unconditional like our father in heaven’s love. Nepotism is one of the roots we’re trying to expose my friend. Your brother just happens to be the torch bearer for it right now. Hopefully this can open people’s eyes. It’s not personal. We spread and expose all the issues hurting people just like you. We Always! Always! Fact check and if we can’t fact check we say “here’s what we’re hearing “ Most of us have children brothers sisters moms dads inside.. And we’re exposing their so called shepherd (Isaac) to get them to wake up.. We’re also exposing their frivolous legal system which btw you are a victim of yourself..
Danny — September 13, 2023#
Bro Beran Stop hiding behind a fake make. One thing I learned to do was let go and worry about myself and the family that I have around me that support me. If you can’t let go, then you will never succeed in life mentally, physically and emotionally
We all make choices in life that are for the good and the bad I chose a different direction 23 years ago for reasons that only matter to me.
If this website is to create awareness of this church, and their ways of living, then kudos. But when it comes down to bullying and talking, smack on certain members of the church then the whole focus for this website is not irrelevant.
Some people need to learn how to let go. One thing I will always remember being told when we were young is that we will never be happy if we leave the church. Guess what? Most of the people that are writing comments that have left the church are not happy. I’m happy with my life. I’m happy the direction my life is going. And I got the most amazing career. No need for me to say anymore. If you guys want to respond to this, just know, I’m not gonna read the response because I don’t look at this website unless someone tells me about something that’s being written about me.
STOP HIDING BEHIND FAKE NAMES!! Don’t be scared Like the saying goes in Spanish “ Amarte los cojones” and put your name when you post
Anonymous — September 13, 2023#
Sounds like a perfect combination. Liars. No one is envious of either of them.
Saved By Grace — September 13, 2023#
We are trying to get GD kids to realize the way they’re being raised is mental abuse at best. At worst it’s generational trauma that needs to be exposed! Bro Berean hopefully DT can see that he too is a victim of GD..by his kids not knowing the love of a nana Tata! .. his children won’t get to experience the love from her cousins aunts and uncle in GD. DT you need to stop pretending that all of us here on this site arent victims of Isaac and that’s the 1st step to heal. We have healed by addressing the issues in GD that are abusing so many people. You need to let your daughter know it’s wrong so she doesn’t fall victim to GD. Would you allow Isaac to tell you who your daughter can marry? Of course not! I don’t want you to leave the site but if you do always remember that I have even exposed my own family on this site. And if you needed us to assist you with getting back your family email is we would without hesitation do anything possible!. I don’t expose GD because I’m a good person but because the Gospel of Jesus Christ commands us to expose legalism in his name. I would expose my adult family who are allowing Isaac to control my nieces and nephews trapped who have no voice!
Brother Berean — September 13, 2023#
Good to hear DR! I wish more people in GD could see the truth that there is more for them outside that prison. Glad to hear that you’ve moved on. sorry if you felt attacked. That’s not my intentions, honestly.
Anonymous — September 14, 2023#
LA VERDAD NO PECA … PERO SI INCOMODA!!! QUE SE DIGA LA VERDAD LE GUSTE A QUIEN LE GUSTE!!! LA VARDAD NOS HACE LIBRES,
EX-CON — September 14, 2023#
I am who I am. I said what I said. I stand by what I said. Funny how this website is always called a gossip group by those living off the fatted calf, Isaac, Funny, indeed, that those exposed always called this site a gossip group.. I’m not exposing my brother because I hate him. I want his eyes to be opened to realize our own mom will cut us off whenever she wants and that’s not love. Break the cycle brother Notice nobody said I was lying because I have facts. To my brother who just left and got married please do your research and don’t go back
Mason hands — September 14, 2023#
Hmmm.. Let me find out families of God are having contact with ex-cons and sinners. Brother Isaac has taken you out from the blood! I pray for the destruction of your body to save your soul for the Isaac. I said a path before us that is the word. Quit trying to give advice get your life, right or you’ll end up just like the creators of this website lost and in sin..without the word I didn’t need to wake up to this nonsense. I’m already running late to go lay block with the brothers.
Mason hands — September 14, 2023#
I just talked to an elder from the church and he agreed. You were taken out from the blood get your life, right. My brother here at the job site just told me about how you partied hard and show up on Sundays. There’s nothing wrong with that come back It sounds like you and I would get along just fine
Anonymous — September 14, 2023#
Aguantas bro. Agarrate los cojones y aguantar, como todos nosotros!!! Tienes un chingo de sobrinos alli que se Les esta enseñando a idolatrar a los Noriega. Y a esconderse, para hacer actividades normales . Y a muchas cosas mas … deveria apoyar esta web esta chingon!! Hasta Este dia no r visto una mentira o exaceracion, tu propio hijo esta frustado..
Capstone LLC — September 14, 2023#
Did Mason hands just find a new friend? Or is he witnessing? Lol
Rainbow Trout — September 14, 2023#
Capstone LLC… Cut ties with Mason Hands and turn hom into the Isaac. He is not who you think he is.
GDT Research — September 14, 2023#
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Anonymous — September 14, 2023#
Mason hands: 😅😅😅
Anonymous — September 14, 2023#
😂😂😂
Anonymous — September 14, 2023#
There you go bffs. You both are alike 😂